Will you please clear up this matter?
A Between the Military Medical Academy and the meetings, there was only one connection; that is, the Academy made its rooms available for the meeting, nothing else.
Q Did you heard Doctor Ding's speech at the Academy in May 1943?
A No, this speech was given to the group of Hygienest, and I did not participate in this group.
Q Was it reported to you?
A I heard that Rosa, in the discussion which followed, raised an objection, but that was not reported to me at that time.
Q Did you not learn of it privately either?
A. No.
Q To explain further a connection between Block 46 at Buchenwald and the Military Medical Academy, Dr. Kogon referred to the entry in the Ding diary which speaks of the control, the testing of the blood conserves. I will read you only one of the total of three entries. "22 September '43: test of blood serum preserves. 16 January '44: on behalf of the Military Medical Academy, 18 ampules of blood serum were tested on 18 experimental subjects. 17 February '44: records of tests sent off." Then there is another such entry on the 25th of January '44 and on the 22nd of May '44.
Can you say anything about this, that is, about the fact that the Military Medical Academy sent blood serum to Buchenwald to be tested on human beings there?
A No, I can say nothing about that. I did not know of the event or the reasons for it.
DR. NELTE: Mr. President, at this point I should like to submit the affidavit of Prof. Dr. Kenrad Lang as HA-38 in Document Book 2, Page 56. Dr. Lang, whom I asked for an affidavit as the only request I had to make of him, answered the following:
"I, Kenrad Lang, herewith state under oath the following facts, which I know from personal knowledge: The serum conserves produced by the Army Medical Academy were supplied to the army from 1941 on and later also to the navy and the Waffen SS. All physicians using it were instructed to report about the therapeutic success, the compatibility, and possible incidence so that experiences could be collected. Therefore, a questionnaire was attached to each ampule. When filled out, it had to be returned to the Military Medical Academy directly. In addition to that, some university clinics, municipal hospitals and army hospitals currently received ampules for scientific testing and research. Also, all medical offices which were supposed to collect their own experiences before application on a large scale received ampules for experimental purposes.
"The Military Medical Academy did not commission the Waffen SS to test serum conserves on prisoners. The entry in the Ding diary that serum conserves were to be tested upon request of the Military Medical Academy and again that in the examination findings were to be sent away I can only explain by stating that all offices which used serum conserves were generally instructed to report on success, compatibility, and possible incidence. The Military Medical Academy never received any reports which showed that they emanated from concentration camps. I learned from conversations that the SS carried out on its own initiative the development of blood conserves and blood substitutes.
"The good compatibility and durability of the serum conserves produced by the Military Medical Academy was proved by 1941 and documented in scientific publications. From the many thousands of reports, one did not learn of a single case which showed permanent damage to health or a fatality caused by these serum conserves.
Q I have read the one page of this affidavit carefully and signed it with my own hand..." and so forth. It is certified by a notary on the 15th of January 1947.
I ask that this be accepted as Exhibit 15.
Q Now, I come to the individual cases where it must be examined as to what your connection was as the chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service with the research conducted in the branches of the Wehrmacht. The individual branches of the Wehrmacht, as we know, had their own research institutes. You have spoken about this already. You have said that these were primarily specific experiments. Will you please tell me briefly what your powers were on the basis of the decree of 1942 in the field of research which we have not yet mentioned?
A It is nowhere set down precisely. Even after 1944 there was never any authorization or influence from me as chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service on the specific fields of research of the Luftwaffe and the navy. These were fields which were specifically connected with these branches of the Wehrmacht and were thus automatically eliminated from my duties, which were to coordinate the joint fields of work.
I can, therefore, only say that I was neither informed about the work of these branches of the Wehrmacht nor did I have any supervision or other influence on this work.
Q But now it has been shown that the Luftwaffe, for example, carried on research which one cannot call specific Luftwaffe problems, for example, the typhus question. What is your viewpoint on this question?
A Scientific medical research is a subject which is not subject to military orders. It was never the intention and under the decree of '44 it would not have resulted that the chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service was to prevent work's being done in general fields of research by anyone interested and capable; that he was to be eliminated by an order that he could not do it; that all others could do it.
My assignment of '44 is to be interpreted to mean that unnecessary duplication, where it is absolutely clear, and the use of personnel and materials unnecessarily, are to be avoided as far as possible. I was to consult the medical chiefs of the various branches of the Wehrmacht and their scientific consultants and find whether and how we could centralize the matter.
Q If I understand you correctly, you did not have the duty in such a case of coordinating but you could have coordinated if it had been expedient for this field of research.
A First, if I had learned of it and, second, if according to my information I had the impression that this was unnecessary duplication, then I would have tried to prevent this duplication.
Q Did you learn of the typhus research which the air force carried on?
A. No.
Q I must point out to you that in the typhus document book experiments are mentioned, conducted by Prof. Haagen, Strasbourg, on behalf of the air force and the Reich Research Council. Do you remember that?
A Yes.
Q Please take this document and lock at Page 77 in this document book.
That is Document NO-306, Exhibit 296 of the prosecution. It is a letter from Prof. Rose to Prof. Haagen.
A May I ask for the page again?
Q Page 77, Page 74 in the English document book. The prosecution believes that they see in this letter a connection with you, as chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service, to the typhus research in Strassbourg. What do you have to say about that?
A It says here that the inspector of the medical service of the air force is to approach the chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service with the request to have typhus vaccines produced for the Wehrmacht. I can only say that the application made to the inspector was not realized. It did not come to my attention as the chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service. This suggestion to vaccinate the whole Eastern Front is new to me.
Q You will find in the book before you on page 79, a document, No. 137, Exhibit 298, page 76 in the English Book. That is an application of Professor Haagen to the Director of the University at Strasbourg with reference to five research assignments. Do you know these research assignments?
A That is on page 80?
Q No, Page 79*.
A No, I do not know these assignments.
Q Will you please look in the document book on page 74. This is Document No. 370, Exhibit 292 of the Prosecution. This is an affidavit of the defendant, Rudolf Brandt, which Brandt gave to the Prosecution. Ideals with experiments in the concentration camp Natzweiler. The defendant, Rudolf Brandt, told the Prosecution the following:
"Obergruppenfuehrer, Dr. Karl Brandt, Reich Commissioner for Health and Sanitation, General Assistant of Siegfried Handloser, Chief of the Medical Service of the Wehrmacht," and so forth and so forth, "naturally knew of the experiments by Haagen on human subjects. These men were informed of all fundamental events in the medical scientific research and these experiments could not have been carried out without their knowledge and approval". What do you have to say about this affidavit?
A I can only say that Rudolf Brandt was mistaken. I do not know where he got the evidence for this statement.
Q Mr. President, In this connection I submit Document HA 14 in my Document book 2, page 24, Rudolf Brandt here declares in connection with what I have just read from his affidavit No. 370 I quote:
"This paragraph of my affidavit does not give actual facts. I cannot cite any concrete fact which could corroborate the opinion. On the basis of the interrogator's statement I assumed that this coincided with the actual fact."
I ask that this affidavit be accepted as Exhibit No. 16.
Now, since the Prosecution has dropped the charges of high altitude experiments, we come to the cold experiments. Were cold experiments conducted under your authority?
A Yes, cold experiments were conducted by the Army Medical School in St. Johann.
These cold experiments concerned the adaptation to cold in the mountains for mountain troops. As far as I know they were carried out exclusively on German soldiers. I did not become aware that any of them suffered any harm from the experiments.
Q Mr. President, in this connection, I should like to submit Document HA 17. This is an excerpt from an essay concerning investigations on adaptation to cold.
Document, HA 29, it is in document book 3, document HA 49, which is in document book 3, and is not yet available to the Tribunal. This article which was written by Dr. Dramer, who has been mentioned several times here, concerns the experiments in the Mountain Physiological Institute at the Mountain Medical School at St. Johann, which was under the defendant, Professor Handloser, and contains an exact description of how these experiments were conducted, and it states that they were conducted on our own people, our own soldiers. With the customary reservation, I ask that this article, which the author mentioned in an affidavit by Dr. Kramer, I ask that ****e submitted as Exhibit No. 17. Now the Prosecution has present **** excerpt from the report of the meeting concerning winter distress and distress at sea on the 26th and 27th of October, 1942, in Nurnberg. I shall have you shown the document book on the cold experiments. It is Document No. 401, exhibit 93 of the Prosecution, and in Document Book 3, page 86. You will find there a list of the participants in this meeting. In this meeting, Dr. Kramer from St. Johann's --
THE PRESIDENT: What was the number, please, the number of the document?
DR. NELTE: Document 401, Exhibit 93, page 79. It is a Prosecution Document, your Honor, Document Book No. 3, page 79.
BY DR. NELTE:
Q Did you ever receive a report on the lecture of Professor Holzlochner at this meeting?
A No.
Q Following this meeting there seems to have been contact between Dr. Kramer as the officer of the Army Mountain Medical School and Dr. Rascher, the well known experimenter at Dachau. Was anything reported to you or did you learn anything of this contact?
A It was not reported to me either officially, or unofficially, any connection between Kramer and Rascher.
Q Was the connection between the Army Mountain Medical School and the Organization at Dachau reported to you?
A No, and I should like to say that I am convinced that the very strict Command Officer of the Mountain Medical School at St. Johann would certainly have reported that to the Army Medical Inspectorate.
Q Mr. President, I should like to submit an affidavit of Dr. Kramer and also of Dr. Schaeffer. Dr. Kramer says the following, and I quote. That is Document HA 37, document book 2, page 53. Dr. says the following:
"I attended as a representative of the Army Mountain Medical School the conference on the problems of low temperatures which was hold in Nurnberg in the fall of 1942. I listened to the lecture by Professor Holzlochner and the remarks made during the discussion by Dr. Rascher. On my way back to St. Johann, I happened to share until Munich, the compartment with Dr. Rascher. Only once Dr. Rascher mentioned briefly his experiments and described them in the following way:
1. Experimental subjects: They were hardened criminals sentences to death who had volunteered for the Dachau experiments to be given life and liberty having passed through the experiment.
2. Experiments: The arrangements for the scientifically conducted experiments was such that the experimental subjects survive if possible.
3. Results: As life-preserving measure for people who have been exposed to low temperatures, a hot bath of approximately 50 degrees is most feasible. To what an extent the description by Rascher is in accordance with the one given by him and Professor Holzloehner at the conference, or went beyond it, I can no longer recall.
In well calculated contrast to those experiments with human beings, which my collaborators and I opposed, and which, as far as I know, were never approved by the Army Medical Inspectorate either, I outlined for Dr. Rascher the manner how we, in St. Johann, had planned the experiments concerning adjustment to cold, and how we had made preparations for them with animal experiments.
Only now did I learn from Document No. 1519-PS that Dr. Rascher pictured those ideas as his own and that he claimed that I desired to cooperate with him. I pointed out I sent this document to Dr. Kramer at St. Johann.
"In St. Johann, we conducted experiments as to the adjustment to cold using ourselves and soldiers of the Army Mountain Medical School as experimental subjects, as described in the attached study taken from the Clinical Weekly Review."
That is the document which I submitted.
"Even after Dr. Rascher's letter of 12 November 1942, no further connection with Dr. Rascher or a collaboration with him, which could have been arranged only through the Army Medical Inspectorate, was accomplished. As far as I remember that letter was never answered.
"The further collaboration which Dr. Rascher wanted was supposed to consist of Dr. Rascher borrowing scientific machinery and tools from the institution at St. Johann. I particularly remember that he asked whether it might be possible to make available a Haldane apparatus for the analysis of respiratory gases. The loan of any appliances from our institute would have necessitated a written request from Dr. Rascher which had to be submitted for decision to the Army Medical Inspectorate. Such an application of Dr. Rascher, as far as I know, never reached St. Johann whereupon it was necessary to and a report to the Army Medical Inspectorate. Neither did I submit a report about the Nurnberg conference to the Army Medical Inspectorate.
"I informed Dr. Schaefer, who at that time was my commander, on the conversation with Dr. Rascher and his letter to me.
"In conclusion I would like again to emphasize that at no time any collaboration between Dr. Rascher and the Mountain Physiological Institute of the Army Mountain Medical School which I conducted, was brought about because we did not desire it nor apply for it."
I ask that this Affidavit be accepted as Exhibit 18.
The next exhibit is the Affidavit of Dr. Schaefer, the Commanding Officer of the Medical School - Document HA-42 - Document Book II, page 66.
MR. McHANEY: This document appears on page 66 of Handloser Document Book. Prosecution objects to its admissibility on the grounds that it is not sworn to nor certified before a Notary Public or Dr. Nelte as defense counsel.
DR. NELTE: I do not know whether Mr. McHaney has seen this certificate of the Notary Knobloch on the original. The affidavit is certified as follows: "I certified herewith the above signature of Dr. med. Wilhelm Otto Schaefer of Bad Salzhausen who identified himself by his new German Identity Card, D 144 06 issued by the Landratsamt in Buedingen, 30 September 1946.
Nidda, Oberhaessen. 10 January 1947."
MR. McHANEY: Prosecution has no desire to be hypertechnical in these matters but since defense counsel chose to make such a large issue of this matter of sworn statements and the like during prosecution's case in chief, we are compelled to object to the admission of this document. No oath was administer in so far as it appears in this statement, nor is there anything which indicat that the certifying authority had the right to administer an oath, let alone that one was administered. We have offered several documents which were certified in exactly the same manner which were objected to and excluded on the same grounds I am now urging to the Tribunal.
DR. NELTE: It is correct that this document is not sworn. The heading above this document reads: "Affidavit". It continues, "Upon the request of Dr. Nelte, Defense Counsel of the former Generaloberstabsarzt Prof. Handloser, I make the following statement:" That is, in general, according to rules valid in Germany sufficient to designate the documents an affidavit. If the Court wishes that a further express statement he made in this form "I herewith declare upon oath" then I ask that this document be accepted temporarily and that a special statement from Dr. Schaefer is submitted later that he has made this statement expressly as an affidavit.
THE PRESIDENT: The Tribunal will accept the exhibit provisionally subject to it being later shown that the statement was sworn to or was made in lieu of oath under penalties of false swearing or pergery. It may be marked "provisionally admitted".
DR. NELTE: The document reads as follows:
JUDGE SEBRING: What is the exhibit number of this document?
DR. NELTE: Exhibit 19, Document Book II, page 66. Dr. Schaefer makes the following statement:
"1. The Army Fountain Medical School, which I commanded, was directly subordinate to the OKH/Army Medical Inspectorate. From its beginning Generaloberstabsarzt Prof.
Dr. Handloser was Army Medical Inspector until he was appointed Chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service.
"2. He established this school and laid down its principles. It existed from January 1942 until the capitulation.
"3. Among its tasks was the scientific research concerning the effects of high altitude on human beings with the aim of preserving health and efficiency. These questions were studied by the Research......./..... Group of the school in the Mountain Physiological Institute by specialists in the field of physiology.
The head was the former Oberstabserzt Dr. med. habil. Hans-Dietrich Cremer.
"4. Each and every scientific problem resulting from the Mountain service was submitted by me to the Army Medical Inspectorate for approval. This made it impossible that any official connections to other research establishments could have existed without my knowledge as commander of the Army Mountain Medical School and therefore, without the knowledge of the Army Medical Inspect 5. A collaboration between the school I conducted and Dr. Rascher never existed.
Never did I issue order concerning the establisment of contacts to Dr. Rascher, whom I did not know. Any relations of Dr. Cremer to Dr. Rascher (Compare the file notes of Dr. Rascher)......"
This is the same document which Dr. Cremer mentions.
"therefore must have been of merely private nature. It is therefore impossible that any contacts between Handloser and Rascher could have been maintained through my school.
"6. Cold experiments were conducted at my school under scientifically correct, medically ethical conditions; they were performed with animal experimental subjects and physicians and medical personnel who had volunteered for that purpose. The method and the results of this research work were published in a special issue of the "Clinical Weekly Review" which came out in the Fall of 1944. I am in a position to name at any time a number of German scientists who can give information about the scientific, medical and ethical methods of this school which I conducted under the supervision of the Army Medical Inspector."
Now I submit this document as Exhibit 19. The next document I do not want to read. If the Prosecution agrees, it is the affidavit of Generalarzt Hartlebon who belonged to the Organizational Section of the Army Medical Inspector, Professor Handloser.
I asked Dr. Hartleben to speak about conditions at the Army Mountain Medical School and the connections between this school and the Medical Inspectorate. He does so in an affidavit, document HA-40, in Document Book II, page 60, which I submit as exhibit 20.
The question of malaria experiments was settled by our examination this morning. I should like to ask the Tribunal whether under those circumstances I may submit an affidavit which I obtained by way of precaution from Professor Rodenwaldt whom the defendant Professor Handloser mentioned several.times. He was his specialist on malaria questions and he stated in an affidavit that experiments in the field of immunization against and the treatment of malaria now drugs on and with human beings were not conducted. He goes into detail. This is in Document Book II on page 1. In this case I would have to ask that I may correct this to the form described by the Tribunal later. This affidavit was given at a time when the ruling of the Court had not yet been made known, at least not at the moment when I addressed Professor Rodenwaldt. I ask that I may be allowed to submit this as exhibit 21 provisionally and I will submit the now form later.
THE PRESIDENT: That is the proposed number of this exhibit. Counsel
DR. NELTE: Exhibit 21.
THE PRESIDENT: The exhibit may be provisionally admitted, subject to the form being later made to conform to the Tribunal's rule.
BY DR. NELTE:
Now we come to the Lost Gas experiments. I will show you Document Book 13. I refer to Document NO 097. I do not know the exhibit number. It is in Document Book No. 13, on page 19, Mr. President This is a report which Professor Hirt sent to the Ahnenerbe which Dr. Sievers presented to the Reichsfuehrer SS. (Page 20 in the English Document Book.) Do you knew Professor Hirt?
A. I never saw him and I never talked to him.
Q. This report, which I showed to you once before, NO 097, page 19 is a report which Professor Hirt makes about a report which he had previously made to an Army Agency and that latter report is the one I would to interested in, in connection with you. Do you know anything about such a report?
A. No. I cannot see here what the date of the report was.
Q. The report which you have before you is of the year 1942. Have you found it - NO 097 - it is the enclosure to a letter?
A. Yes, I have found it. Yes, "Secret Report about" etc.
Q. Yes. This report before you was made in the year 1942. This is shown by the letter which Dr. Sievers writes.
A. I do not know this report.
Q. In this report which you should look at, reference is made to a report which Hirt made in 1940 when he was still a Wehrmacht Medical Officer to a Generalarzt, a superior of his at that time, and he reports here about experiments which he performed on Lost in the year 1939 until about May 1940. He writes that in 1940 he had to interrupt this work because he was called to the front at the begin ning of the war against France. If you were to read this report you would see .... I do not believe, Mr. President, that it will be necessary for him actually to read this report.
I spoke of it in my opening statement but I pointed out that the report speaks only of animal experiments and experiments on 2 cadets at the military Medical Academy. The only thing important here is the following page 3 of the report; it says: "A transfer of these experiments to human-beings could not take place because I hod to return to my unit at the beginning of the Offensive against France. The Prosecution refers to this sentence and intends to prove with this that a medical office of the Army knew about medical experiments least gas experiments -- on human beings and instigated them or at least know of them. Will you please say what you have to say about this matter?
A. First I must say about this report that I did not know of the incident but since 2 cadets are mentioned and since he says that in 1939 or 1940 he was at the Academy, it is clear to me that he saw the experiments there which I might say were almost constantly conducted on our cadets, that is, the medical students, under an assignment by which the Academy had to find a method for treating Lost damage to the human skin. There were dozens, perhaps many dozens of cadets who volunteered for this experiment until, I don't knew whether it was 1942 or 1945, the desired ointment was finally discovered. I must conclude that if Dr. Hirt in 1939 and 1940, that is at a time when I did not yet have anything to do with the Academy, if he participated in such experiments on cadets or watched them, then the concluding sentence here that he was occupied with new experiments on rats and that he wanted to transfer such testing of treatment to human-beings, was again a question of volunteers, in any case with us in the Academy. Therefore I am not able to draw any conclusions from this sentence. I can only refer to the fact that the Academy conducted these experiments to discover a Lost ointment on volunteer students and that Hirt mentions these 2 cadets in the year 1939 or 1940.
Q The report made in 1940 -- you did not receive this report?
A I could not have received it because in 1940 I had nothing to do with the Academy.
Q It might be possible that the Generalarzt to whom the report was given in 1940 was your subordinate as Army Arzt -- you did not learn of it in that capacity either?
A No.
Q Now the Document NO 372, Document Book 13, Page 1, has been submitted by the Prosecution because there are no other documents in Document Book 13.
THE PRESIDENT: If Counsel can give the Tribunal the exhibit numbers of these documents which have already been admitted, it will be convenient.
DR. NELTE: No. 252. As I have already said, Document book 13.
Q In addition to the report already mentioned, which you did not know, there is also Document NO 372, an affidavit from the defendant Rudolf Brandt, who says that in addition to Karl Brandt and the other persons mentioned, Handloser and Rostock must have known of these experiments. I therefore ask you, did you learn of any Lost Gas experiments such as were the subject of the Prosecution's case here?
A No.
DR. NELTE: Mr. President, in this connection I submit an affidavit from Dr. Rudolf Brandt, Document HA-4 in Document Book 2, page 3, as Exhibit 22. Rudolf Brandt says:
"In my affidavit dated 14 October 1946 (Document NO-372) I testified to my alleged knowledge of the LOST (Mustard) gas experiments on human subjects. The last paragraph subsequent to this testimony reads as follows:
'In addition to Karl Brandt and the other persons mentioned above, Handloser and Rostock must have had knowledge of these experiments.'
"Concerning this I declare the following:
"My statement in this case is a mere assumption which I pronounced only in reply to a corresponding question of the interrogator. I can give no factual data for this assumption. I have never had any associations, neither official nor private, with Professor Handloser."
I ask that this affidavit be accepted as Exhibit 22.
Q Professor Handloser, in the various counts of the indictment it is repeatedly said, and again in the Lost Gas Experiments, that your responsibility can be deduced from the fact that the experiments were conducted in the interests of the Wehrmacht. I should like to ask you to say whether any experiments conducted here of which it is said they were conducted on behalf of the Wehrmacht, necessarily had any connection with the agencies of the Wehrmacht as instigators or as participants?
A I am considering what example one should give. One must realize that, for example, in the whole field of communicable diseases that the Wehrmacht particularly during the war was especially interested; but these are fields where even under normal circumstances and especially under the living conditions, which became constantly worse during such a large war, the whole state is equally interested. As I have already said, that not only the research workers of the Wehrmacht were interested, but every research worker who conscientiously took an interest in such things - and I should like to add that formerly Wehrmacht was predominately interested in the things and problems dealing with wounds, but in this war that was changed completely. Through the air raids, which had existed for years and were constantly increasing, which one could compare with a heavy barrage of gun-fire on the civilian population, the doctors at home were equally interested in wounds, injuries, and burns as the doctors at the front, so that finally one can say not only in the field of internal medicine and the field of communicative diseases, but also in the entire field of injuries the interest was definitely a common one and one can no longer specify Wehrmacht interest.
Q. You take as an example epidemics, which are probably especially convincing, but I should like to come back to your statement of this morning where you spoke of the group of people for whom you as chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service and as Army Medical Inspector had to carry medically. You said that first they consisted of the soldiers, members of the army; 2, the relatives of the soldiers at home; 3, the occupied territories and the population and 4, Prisoners of And particularly in the charge against Professor Handlo ser, I want to prove that he, as Chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service, was obligated to care for the Prisoners of War.
I have gathered the evidence for this and ask that it be accepted. It is first, Document HA-5, Document Book No. 1, Page 27. This is an excerpt from the War Medical Ordinance of the Army. It deals with the Medical service in Prisoner of War camps. I offer this as Exhibit No. 23.
Then, I submit Document HA-3-A in Document Book No. 1, page 29. This shows that the duty of the medical officers in the rear areas was to care for the civilian population and the Prisoners of War. I offer this Document as Exhibit No. 24.
I offer the affidavit of Generalarst Dr. Walter Penner, HA-6, Document Book No. 2, Page 4. It contains a general presentation of the observations of Generalarst Dr. Penner of the defendant Handloser. I do not want to offer that in this connection, but I should like to come back to the letter. The reason why I mention it now is the fact that Dr. Penner points out that Professor Handloser issued orders corresponding to humane treatment and dealing with the medical care to be given the population in be occupied territories. With the approval of the Prosecution, I should like to offer this Document as Exhibit 25 without reading it.
And now I have two special Documents, Documents of the Swedish Colonel, Dr. v. Erlach - HA-7 in Document Book 2, Page 7. This document I should not like to read in its entirety, but only insofar as it contains the question, which we have just dealt with, the treatment given the Prisoners of War and Professor Handloser's connection with this matter.
Dr. v. Erlach, who was chairman of the Medical Commission in Germany from the summer of 1940 until the late fall of 1944, knew conditions in Germany. He limits has testimony since he deals only with three nationalities and not the Russians.