In our present situation this is entirely out of the question. If we lose another 14,000 men they could be taken only from the most vigorous age groups of the coal face workers. It is easy to calculate to what extent the haulage would go down in such a case. We urgently ask to protect us from further calling-up in the mining industry.
SPEER: At least it cannot be undertaken until replacement labor is available in such a way that they all have been trained. It cannot be done at a moment's notice.
KEHRL: Before August we cannot discuss such a thing. A decrease of 40,000 tons a day means a yearly deficit of 14 million tons.
SPEER: Timm will find out in collaboration with Wager and the District Economy Office where Russians suitable for mining are still employed as auxiliary laborers. They will be exchanged man for man against Russian women or other replacements received by us and suitable for their work, and the Russians will be turned over to the mining industry. I would only be preferable to make a preliminary examination of these men, since of the people engaged we always found only one half of them to be really suitable. The pre-examination of these men in the factories should set a stricter standard. After the final numbers have been found out and discussed with Timm, a detailed statement has to be prepared for use in the Reich Marshal's conference.
"SOGEMEIER: May I put a question connected with this matter? Russians are still being combed out from the mining industry who had been more or less trained metal workers. This leads to difficulties, since Russian prisoners of war, when they learn of this fact, come forward at once and state they had been metal workers.
SPEER: The intention was to comb out these Russians solely for use in the industry which services the needs of the mining industry. This is clearly stated with regard to the mines. In that case you surely have no objections?
"SOGEMEIER: No, if the industry which serves the mines is receiving them, I do not object.
"KEHRL: In case of doubt the serving industry is not getting them. As soon as they are discovered, the Russians are snatched away for more urgent work. For instance, we have experienced that people while being on their way to us have been redirected when they had arrived in Cologne. Only a certain percentage of then arrive as a rule, a rather high percentage is taken away for different use.
"SPEER: But the number of men released as metal workers is established. Therefore, it must be possible to find out how many of these men have arrived at the serving industry. You are able to find that out, Mr. Sogemeier. We on our part had agreed with Sauckel that they are to be extracted solely for the serving industry. This was in compliance with Pleiger's express request to that effect.
"SPEER: In any case we ought to force the coal production with all our power.
"I have here a statement on the distribution of the Soviet prisoners. There are 368,000 altogether Of these are: 101,000 in agriculture, 94,000 in the mining industry, who are not available in any case, 15,000 in the building materials industry, 26,000 in iron and metal production where they cannot be extracted either, 29,000 in the manufacture of iron, steel, and metal goods, 63,000 in the manufacture of machines, boilers, and cars and similar appliances, which means the armaments industry and 10,000 in the chemical industry. Agriculture thus has received by far the most of them, and the men employed there could in the course of time be exchanged for women. The 90,000 Russian prisoners of war employed in the whole of the armaments industry are for the greatest part skilled men. If you can extract 8 - 10,000 men from there, it would already be the limit.
"KEHRL: Would it not be possible to add Serbians, etc?
"SOGEMEIER: We ought not to mix them too much.
ROHLAND: For God's sake, no Serbians! We had very bad experiences with mixing.
SPEER: We distribute by starting from a production of 290 million tons which is quite considerable. If the conditions on which such a production can be reached cannot be fulfilled, this will influence the supply of household coal to a very great extent. This we ought to point out to Sauckel, that is, that the psychological effect on the population will be a considerable one in case he cannot provide the necessary labor.
"MEINBERG: Especially since the transports of laborers always arrive 1½ months later than promised; for this means a loss of 10% production intended to be accomplished by the additional laborers. In that case the 290 million tons can never be reached, but 280 million at the most. The deal alone in supplying the labor has that effect.
SPEER: What are your proposals for our further action, Kehrl?
KEHRL: If the labor supply is secured by appropriate measures we have no problems as to its distribution. This problem for distribution, however, is insulable, if we have to distribute the labor for a production of less than 295 million tons, that is, if we produce less than 282 million tons. According to what Timm just said and what we have discussed, we shall not reach our goal. He wants to take 22,000 men from inner Germany, moreover 10,000 Russian Prisoners of War, altogether 32,000. To supply the rest, we wait for God in Heaven and the General Government. Judging by our earlier experience, we shall not get them. The gentlemen of the General had to cancel the recruitment owing to the danger for their lives, since they were unable to recruit at all in certain areas. The least we have to reckon with are therefore great delays, and each delay means great loss of production because there is less hauling.
TIMM: All these numbers are estimates, and nobody can guarantee their correctness. I made a point of mentioning the difficulties. But I am enough of an optimist to believe that we shall be able to attain these numbers. I also said we hope to supply in May the outstanding labor from the General Government despite all the difficulties. If one es timates pessimistically one never arrives at a conclusion.
KEHRL: Our risk with regard to coal, however, is too great. All honor to the optimist, but it seems out of the question that we could get as much as we need. We cannot affort to take a risk in this matter.
SPEER: Who is in a position to give you a guarantee for a 100% certainty?
KEHRL: We have to employ the men who are already in this country. This is the only possible guarantee.
SPEER: Absolutely out of the question.
KEHRL: (continues) In relation to the number of men already working for us the 20,000 to 30,000 men whom we wish to extract are a very small number. They are of decisive importance for the entire industry. We employ altogether 24 million men. If we extract 25,000 directly from our people, this does mean nothing for he manufactures, but would decisively benefit the whole of industry.
SPEER: Out of the question!
"SCHIEBER: In my opinion the General Commissioner for Labor ought to proceed in the following manner: Action to bring about the immediate release of at least 30,000 laborers from agriculture who will be supplied to the coal mines. In exchange, agriculture which is anyway in urgent need of additional female labor, receives any female labor who arrive. In my opinion the mines today can be supplied only from the sole real reserve of vigorous foreign men which we still have viz. from agriculture. These men are also well fed and able to do real work.
SPEER: Everything depends on the amount of the influx from abroad.
SCHIEBER: If anyway nothing arrives, the mines certainly will get nothing.
TIMM: Gauleiter Sauckel is perfectly convinced that the transports will be on their way within a short time. Now the front has been consolidated at last.
SCHIEBER: We ought to be grateful that the weather has allowed the farmer to keep things going in some way despite the little labor being available to him. For the farmer, the coal supply is just as important as for the whole of the armaments industry, when we discuss tomorrow the nitrogen problem we shall see the same. Our first, need is coal.
KOERNER: On the 1st of April we had in agriculture a deficit of about 600,000 laborers. It had been planned to cover it by supplying labor from the east, mainly women. These laborers will first have to be supplied until other laborers are released from agriculture. We are just entering the season where the heaviest work in the fields has to be done, for which many laborers are necessary. Much labor is needed for the hoeing of the fruits, and it is to be hoped that this year the harvest can be started early which would be rendered much more difficult if an exchange of labor would have to take place.
KEHRL: Relatively considered, agriculture is much better provided with labor than the mines. They are still able to undertake improvements which they could not have undertaken in peace-time. We of the mines, on the other hand, have to fight for 20 to 30,000 men. It should not be possible to raise this number out oi the 24 millions? The mines are in a bad position because they en use only certain categories of workers. They are fed with hopes of the men promised from the General Government, or of Russians. But if these men do not arrive?
SOGEMEIER: The 30,000 men are but replacements for the men extracted by the SE-action. If we get them we can just haul 260 million tons, in the best possible case, 275 million tons. Therefore, we need more men than the 30,000.
KEHRL: I meant this number in an additional sense: Added 30,000 men to those expected from the General Government.
SPEER: How is the situation in the Protectorate, Mr. Timm? Can we not extract anything from there?
TIMM: Discussions on this question had been planned, but were cancelled because of the intended shifting of orders for manufacture in the Protectorate.
MR DENNEY: If the court please, I shall now give the interpreter the English copy which they can use for interpreting there, and shall give the photostatic copy in German to them. Now continuing "SPEER:
Despite this shifting, the manpower reservoir is still of such size that some could be extracted. Apart from this, we are not in a position to shift orders at wish, but we are already hampered by the power question.
TIMM: This is exactly what we expected. But the discussions planned to take place in Prague, have been cancelled.
SPEER: The local authorities always maintain that nothing can be released.
TIMM: We wanted the discussions in Prague, since we had examined the position and found out that there are far too many skilled workers in some places and that many workers could be extracted. But subsequently we were told by the Ministry, the conference was cancelled because the shifting made it necessary to employ all available labor.
WEGER: General Daluege and Gauleiter Sauckel especially wished that you, Mr. Minister, took part in the conference. I agree with Timm, and told Hoersekamp that I do not doubt he could release labor from the General Government despite the shifting, because the power question will not be solved in the Protectorate until next year, and the year after. Until that time he can not even use so much labor. Therefore he ought to release some in any case.
MILCH: We ought to except certain areas of the Protectorate to which the orders are being directed, and nothing extract there until a surplus is found out subsequently. For the time being it can not be ascertained. There are enough Court.
No. 2 other areas of the Protectorate which are not affected by the industry plan and some labor could be extracted from them at once.
We ought to name the places which are excepted from our action.
TIMM: In this the authorities on the other side ought to participate. They are in the best position to tell the places from where nothing must be extracted.
MILCH: If one proceeds as I proposed, and Timm agreed to it, no damage can be done. This ought to be done in any case. For the rest I completely agree. We must now supply the mines with labor. The greatest part of labor which we can supply from the East will indeed be women. But the eastern women are quite accustomed to agricultural work, and especially to the type of work which has to be done these coming weeks, the hoeing and transplanting of turnips, etc. The women are quite suitable for this. One thing has to be considered. First, you must supply agriculture with the women, then you can extract the men, laborer for laborer. It is not the right thing if first the men are taken away, and the farmers are left without labor for 4 to 6 weeks. If the women arrive after such time they arrive too late.
SPEER: Beyond this we are prepared to release from all parts of the war economy in exchange for women, any Russian P/W, or other Russian who is employed as auxiliary laborer.
MR. DENNEY: The next meeting to which we come is on 23 July -- however, before that there is a Hitler conference which appears on page 38 of Document Book No. 3-A; a note made by Speer on 10 July 1943, in a discussion with Hitler on 8 July 1943, which appears at page 38 in the Document Book No. 3-A, as follows: "The Fuehrer laid down in the coal discussion that 70,000 Russian prisoners of war fit for mining work should be sent each month to the mines. He also pointed out that an approximate minimum of 150,000 - 200,000 fit Russian prisoners of war must be earmarked for the mines in order to obtain the required number of men suitable for this work. If the Russian prisoners of war can not be released by the Army, the male population in the partisan infested areas should without distinction --"
That is our page 37. I don't know what is the German page. It must he 82, 83, or 84, perhaps, in Book 3-A. I have read down to the end of the first paragraph, if you want to read that.
Do you want to read in German the first paragraph, and then we can pick up the second paragraph.
"If the Russian prisoners of war cannot be released by the Army, the male population in the partisan infested areas should without distinction he proclaimed prisoners of war and sent off to the mines.
"The Fuehrer ordered at the same time that these prisoners of war who are not fit for the mines should immediately he placed in the iron industry, in manufacturing and supply industries and in the armament industry.
"The Fuehrer further ordered that he should receive a monthly report giving:
(A) The total number of Russian prisoners of war.
(B) The number of Russian prisoners of war fit for mining, who have been made available for the mines and a report addressed to Field Marshal Keitel as to why the remainder could not be used.
"The joint report of Sauckel and Pleiger is also to he sent to me."
Then we cone to the 42nd meeting of the Central Planning, which appears at pages 27 and 28 of Document Book A - that is marked the 59th meeting by inadvertence in the German book, but actually it is a copy of the 42nd meeting, and on page 54 of the German document book.
Here's a page -- it appears on Page 27 of the English book. These are the results of the meeting, typed or signed by one Dr. Gramsch, and the list on Page 28 indicates that the defendant was present. This meeting was held on the 23 of June 1943.
"The manpower situation in the coal mining industry, particularly in the hard coal mining industry, is still unsatisfactory, and necessitates an extension of the measures decided upon at the 36th session of the Central Planning Board, held on the 22nd April 1943.
"The intensive discussion yielded as the most expedient solution the use of Russian prisoners of war to fill the existing vacancies. The more homogeneous character of the shifts will" -- The original hasn't come back from the document room, so at this time we will pass the reading up of the 42nd meeting due to the fact that Dr. Bergold doesn't have a copy of it and the interpreters.
And the next document is 1292-PS which appears in Document Book 2-B, Page 60 and on Page 106 of the German translation. We offer this as Exhibit No. 50, being Document 1292-PS: A Sauckel letter to Lammers, dated 5 January 1944, being a report of a Hitler meeting with reference to the allocation of labor.
THE PRESIDENT: On what page?
MR. DENNEY: Page 60 of 2-B, Sir. This is dated. 5 January 1942 and is to Reich Minister and Chief of the Reich Chancellery, Dr. Lammers, written by Gauleiter Sauckel, the General Plenipotentiary for Labor.
THE PRESIDENT: Is it 1942 or '44?
MR. DENNEY: '44, Sir; I am sorry.
"I herewith beg to be permitted to submit to you the following notes about the result of yesterday's conference of the chiefs at the Fuehrer's.
"I further ask you to confirm this result on your part to the chiefs who took part in the conference and to be so kind as to support me in the introduction of the measures which have become necessary as a result of the conference.
"1. The chief subject of the conference was the minimum requirement for workers to be expected in 1944.
"After listening to the participants in the conference, the Fuehrer ruled:
"a) In order to maintain employment at its present level in the entire war economy including agriculture or in order to compensate for losses due to drafting into the Wehrmacht, death, illness, expiration of contracts, etc., it is necessary to make available 2,500,000 workers.
"b) In order to replenish factories which are to carry out additional armament tasks special Fuehrer programs, it is necessary to make available 1,300,000 for Reich Minister Speer.
"c) In order to fulfill requests of the Fuehrer concerning air raid shelters 250,000 workers are needed.
"Total: 4,050,000.
"2. For the purpose of mobilizing reserves of strength of German workers and of foreigners working in Germany, the G.B.A. submitted the suggestion that an effective incentive for an increased output be created by granting food premiums and other advantages. The execution of this suggestion, the practicability of which was recognized unanimously, encounters considerable difficulties due to the fact that the necessary additional food can hardly be raised from German reserves. The Fuehrer held out the prospect of succeeding in making available the necessary products by personally contacting Marshal Antonescue.
"3. The Fuehrer commissioned the G.B.A. on his part to contact the Reich Minister of Foreign Affairs in order to be able to prepare the mobilization of the necessary foreign workers with the utmost speed.
"4. The Fuehrer ruled that the workers employed in the French armament industries by Reich Minister Speer should be protected against a removal.
"5. The Fuehrer pointed out that it was necessary to convince all German offices in the occupied territories and in the axis satellite countries of the necessity of employing foreign workers in order to enable them to assist the G.B.A. in carrying out the necessary organizational, propagantistic and police measures.
"6. The G.B.A. emphasized that during the past two years he had been in the position of being able to guarantee the execution of the given tasks in advantage. This was not possible with absolute certainty in the year 1944. He would, however, make every effort in order to fulfill the plant program under any circumstances.
"The G.B.A. brought up the question of the stabilization of the wages in the occupied territories. The Fuehrer emphasized again that it would be necessary to maintain the level of wages also, in the future; since the additional recruitment of 4,050,000 -workers for the year 1944 was made compulsory by virtue of the Fuehrer's decision." -- Do you have a page missing, Dr. Bergold, too?
DR. BERGOLD: Missing.
MR. DENNEY: "I suggest the following program to make the necessary workers available" -- That is Page 62 -- "after a most exhaustive examination of all possibilities:
"1. From reserves within Germany, about 500,000 new workers can be mobilized if the utmost efforts are exerted (commitment of workers who became unemployed as a result of enemy air raids, duty to register shutting down, measures of selection.
"2. Recruitment of Italian workers amounting to 500,000, of these from January to April monthly 250,000 to 1,000,000 and from May to December 500,000.
"3. Recruitment of 1,000,000 monthly French workers at the same rates, from 1.2 to 31.12,44." (From the beginning of January to the end of December). "(about 91,000 per month).
"4. Recruitment of 250,000 workers from Belgium.
"5. Recruitment of 250,000 workers from the Netherlands.
"6. Recruitment of workers from the Eastern territories, the occupied former Soviet territories, the Baltic States, the Government General" -- And the figure has been left out.
"7. Recruitment of workers from the rest of the European countries, 100,000.
"In order to be able to carry through this program, I ask that the Fuehrer be requested to issue a decree to the highest Reich authorities and military offices concerned, emphasizing again to these agencies the urgency of the task. This decree might mention in an appropriate manner that at an exhaustive conference of the Chiefs at the Fuehrer's with the competent departments, a total requirement of 4,050,000 additional workers for the year was laid down and that the G.B.A. thereupon worked out the above program for the fulfillment of the requirement; the Fuehrer has approved it and its fulfillment is to be aimed at under all conditions. The highest Reich authorities and the military offices concerned should have it pointed out to them that they should assist the G.B.A. with the greatest vigor in carrying out this measure.
"In my opinion, primarily the following authorities are to receive the decree:
"1. The Reich Fuehrer SS and the Reich Minister of the Interior Himmler for the information of all higher SS and police chiefs in the West, in the East and in the South.
"2. The Reich Minister for Foreign Affairs von Ribbentrop for the information of diplomats representing the Reich.
"3. The Chief of the OKW, Field Marshal Keitel, for the information of the military commanders in French and Belgium, the military commander SouthEast, the plenipotentiary general with the Fascist-Republican Government of Italy, the chiefs of the army groups in the East.
"4. The Reich Minister of occupied Eastern territories for the information of the Reich Commissioners for the Ukraine and the Ostland.
"5. The Reich Commissioner of the occupied Dutch territories.
"6. The German General in Cracow, and the General Governor.
"I would be especially grateful to you, most Honorable Reich Minister, if you would be so kind as to expedite this matter as much as possible. In order to carry out the spring cultivation in Germany, as well as to prevent a further decrease in the level of employed in the armament industry, the speediest action is essential. It is important to get the recruitment of foreign workers under way again as Quickly as possible.
Since the Fuehrer has made his decision, I do not want a single day to be lost in the preparation of the measures which must now be taken."
If Your Honor please, an error has been made in the transcription in the original which I have and which I will now show to Dr. Bergold. Opposite Item 6, which appears on page 62 of Document Book 2-B of Exhibit 50 in evidence, the figure "600,000" should be inserted.
We have now obtained the 42nd meeting and in the interest of order it might be well to read that at this time. If Your Honors will recall, that is on page 27 of Document Book 3-A. It is the results of the 42nd meeting which was held on 23 June 1943, and it was passed for the moment because the copy of Dr. Bergold did not have the proper page in it and we now have the photostat of the original.
"The manpower situation in the coal mining industry, particularly in the hard coal mining industry, is still unsatisfactory and necessitates an extension of the measures decided upon at the 36th session of the Central Planning board held on 22 April 1943.
"The intensive discussion yielded as the most expedient solution the use of Russian prisoners of war to fill the existing vacancies. The more homogeneous character of the shifts will bring about the necessary higher output resulting both from an increased capacity of such shifts and particularly from a restriction of fluctuations.
"1. The present drive, which is to be carried out throughout the German economy proper, aims both at freeing Russian labor fit for work in the mining industry and actually not employed as semi-skilled workmen, and at replacing it by additional imported labor consisting of Eastern workers, Poles, etc. Thus, about 50,000 workmen are expected to be made available up to the end of July 1943. This drive is to be accelerated.
"Furthermore, as an immediate measure it should be suggested to the Fuehrer - RVK and the GBA submitting the necessary figures for the statement to the Fuehrer - that 200,000 Russian prisoners fit for the heaviest work be made available from the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS through the intermediary of the Chiefs of the Army Groups. The prisoners will be selected on the spot by medical officers in the mining industry and officials of the Commissioner General for Labor Control (GBA) will take charge of then, there and then. Provisions are to be made for an extension of this program in order to satisfy any demand for manpower, which will have accumulated up to end of the year 1943.
"The manpower needed by the mining transport industry and by the iron-producing industry may be supplied from that same source provided that the necessities of the coal mining industry have previously been adjusted.
"The performance of the Soviet Russians so employed is to be raised by a premium system. For this purpose the ban on pay restrictions is to be lifted and the manager be allowed to distribute among the workmen, according to his duty and discretion, RM 1 per head per day as a premium for particular services rendered.
"Furthermore, care will be taken that workmen can exchange these premiums, which will be paid out in camp money, for goods. It is intended to put at their disposal various provisions - beer, tobacco, cigarettes and cigars, small items for daily use, etc.
"The Reich Ministry of Food, in conjunction with the Reich Association Coal and the Reich Ministry of Economic Affairs, will clarify the question whether further improvement can be granted as far as rations are concerned.
"2. Equally in occupied countries, labor is to be tied more securely to the various factories by means of the distribution of additional ration cards as premium for good service. This refers in particular to the Government General and the occupied territories in the east. The output demanded of the Government General is to be fixed at the proposed amount, and the additional rations for armament workers may then be rated accordingly."
The Court will note the amount of these premiums that are being placed at the disposal of the people working could be purchased for RM 1 is reasonably limited.
The next document is NOKW-198, which should have been inserted in Your Honors' Document Book No. 2. The chart should be between pages 58 and 60. It is listed in the index of Document Book 2-A as NOKW-098. It follows NO-1177 and precedes 1929-PS which was just offered as Exhibit No. 50. It is a photostat and looks like this (photostatic copy of document held up by Mr. Denney) if Honors please.
It has a letter attached to it, a photostat.
THE PRESIDENT: That will be Exhibit No. 51?
MR. DENNEY: We offer this as Exhibit No. 51. If the Court please, in having copies made of this exhibit some difficulty was encountered because there are some figures which have been written over and the original exhibit which the Secretary General has perhaps gives a little clearer picture. For some reason it was impossible to photostat the chart and this was the best we could do -- to make a translation of it which has been certified. I suggest that your Honors look at the original so as to see the handwriting which appears over the figures. We have tried to show them as well as possible on the copies which we made.
(The original exhibit was handed to the President by the Secretary General)
THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Dixon, this is the German.
MR. DENNEY: That is what we wanted your Honors to see -- the writing and figures because it was impossible in the translation to make the copies show -- it conforms, at least, as a Chinese copy so as to speak. Your Honors will note that on the letter which is on the first page -- that is this short piece of paper with it -- up in the right hand corner there is handwritten "back to Central Planning" and then "MI" which are the initials in the handwriting of the defendant.
Now this is a proposal of distribution for I/1944. It is submitted that that means the first quarter of 1944. There is no other date on it except at the bottom it says "25 February 1944".
Now, if this is examined, over on the left side appears a chart "distribution of labor" and it is to be noted that foreigners -- French, Belgians, Dutch, Italians, Eastern workers, Balkans, and other foreigners - are listed there and, also, prisoners of war, and that distribution of labor is listed in thousands.
Over at the right, the third section, under III it speaks of "armament and war production", listing thereunder mining, other raw material industry, 220A iron and metal and ore manufacturing industry, trade goods and food producing industry, building industry, and energy.
And then the various totals by "natives, male and female; foreigners, male and female". Then over in the last column under "balance: 31 May 1943" prisoners of war.
There are some handwritten notes on the left. There are also some handwritten notes on the right. We will produce the original after the recess in order that your Honors may see it because on the original the Defendant's note "Back to Central Planning Milch" is in red pencil. Also, this other handwriting on the plan is in red pencil. I would like Your Honor to see it.
(A recess was taken).
MR. DENNEY: If Your Honors please, we have now obtained the original of Exhibit 51 and Your Honors will note that there are, in addition to the short letter, two pages. The first page appearing thereafter has nothing on it that is not typewritten. That has been photostated and Dr. Bergold has a copy of that and we are getting this page photostated to add it to the exhibit. However, the page that I want to bring up for Your Honors' attention at this time is the last page and the first page and when the photostat comes through of this second one we just have typewritten material except for one red pencil mark around the word "Geheim". We will add that to the exhibit.
It is our contention that the figures in red on the second page were placed there by the defendant.
JUDGE MUSMANO: You say the second page?
MR. DENNEY: Well, the second page in the exhibit, actually that first page which is there. The second page is not part of the exhibit which Your Honors have and there is no red writing on there. So that the record is clear, on the last page which Your Honors have of the original exhibit.
We then cone to the 53rd meeting of the Central Planning Board, which appears at Page 29, Document Book A. It is page 56 in the German copy.
THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Denney, is there a page number for this photostatic exhibit 51? Where should it go?
MR. DENNEY: It goes between pages 58 and 60. It should have page 59 in Document Book 2-B, and Your Honors' index in Document Book 2-A should be corrected to read NOWK 198 instead of NOWK 098. Its page number is 59, Document Book 2-B. It follows an excerpt from the Tribunal which is NO 1177 and precedes Exhibit Number 50, which is 1292-PS.
THE PRESIDENT: We have it.
MR. DENNEY: In addition, we would like to offer as Exhibit 52 and ask the court to judicially notice NO 1177, which appears at page 103 in Document Book 2-C, an excerpt from the transcript of the International Military Tribunal pages 5651 to 5656. That becomes Document No. 52. It is next to the last document on the index of Your Honors' Document Book No. 2, No. 1172.
222A This is the testimony of -- on cross-examination by Mr. Justice Jackson in the initial trial of the defendant with reference to the matter which we ore now going to read, the 53rd meeting of the Central Planning Board, appearing on page 29, Exhibit 48 A, Document Book No. 3 A. This is a partial excerpt from the "stenographic transcript of the 53rd conference of the Control planning Board, concerning the supply of labor on February 16, 1944, 10 o'clock in the Reich Air Ministry.